Temaşevanên hêja, vê carê jî em ji gundekî din bervarane. Ji çandek din, ji urf û adetan din. Dear viewers, this time we are in another village, with another culture, with other customs.
Vê carê jî em li gundê Birc Heyder e. Ev gundê Birc Heyder jî li navçeya Şêrawa ye. This time we are in the village of Birc Heyder. The village of Birc Heyder is in the Şêrawa district.
Dika vê hefteyê, em bi hev re derbasî gundê Birc Heyder bibin. Let's visit the village of Birc Heyder together this week.
Belê temaşevanên hêja, em derbasî gundê Birc Heyder jî bûn. Yes dear viewers, we have entered the village of Birc Heyder.
Milletek jî hat derdora me, em spasiya wan dikin, em jî rûniştin li nav. A group of people has gathered around us, we thank them, and we sat among them.
Niha em ê destpêkê li gundê Birc Heyder, ji mixtêr bipirsin. Now, first in the village of Birc Heyder, we will ask the mukhtar.
Merheba stêra mixtar. Hello mukhtar.
Ehlen wa sehlen merhaba bi xêr hatî. Welcome, hello, welcome.
Îro em mêvanê we ne, em derbasî gundê Birc Heyder bûn. Me xwest destpêkê gundê Birc Heyder em nas bikin. Today we are your guests, we entered the village of Birc Heyder. We wanted to first get to know the village of Birc Heyder.
Birc Heyder, ev navê Birc Heyder ji ku hatiye? Birc Heyder, where did this name Birc Heyder come from?
Ê wallah navê Birc Heyder yê qedîm e. By God, the name Birc Heyder is old.
Ji qedîm de birc, asar li cem me hene, navê birca... navê wan birca... From ancient times, there are towers, we have ruins, the name of the towers... the name of those towers...
Û Heyder jî de kalkekî me hebu ki bu de nav lê bûye Birc Heyder. And Heyder as well, we had an ancestor, so it was named Birc Heyder.
Yanî ji sed salî di zû de ye? So it's from more than a hundred years ago?
Dused sal de, sêsed sal de. Two hundred years, three hundred years.
Ji kevin de ye. It's from a long time ago.
Ê gundê we Birc Heyder hemî malbatek e? Is your village, Birc Heyder, all one family?
Hemî malbatek e. Malbatek e, malbatek me, em dibên malê Gula Xêrê. All one family. One family, our family, we say the family of Gula Xêrê.
Berê de digotin kalkê vê gundî, digotin Elo yê Gula Xêrê. In the past they used to say the ancestor of this village, they used to say Elo of Gula Xêrê.
Ew gund ê ji çi bûye? How did that village come to be?
Ê... Uh...
Niha ku bûye malbat ew ku ne çar pênc malbat di.. Now that it's become a family, there are four or five families..
Giştk kurmamê hev in, pismamê hev in. They are all cousins.
Gişk… tişt orfê de tine ne elhemduleh u gundekî rinde û mirovatî rindetî dikin, başin. All... thank God there is nothing bad, it's a good village and they act nicely, they are good.
Mixtar niha birc heyder çiqas mal e? Mukhtar, how many households are there in Birc Heyder now?
Ê mixtar ha... mala Birc Heyder... 120 heta 150 malî ye. Uh Mukhtar ha... the families in Birc Heyder... are 120 to 150 households.
120 mal heta 150 malî, ha na he ne. 120 to 150 households, that's what it is.
Niha gundê we Birc Heyder, bi kîjan gunda re hûn mirovê hevin, di herêma Şêrawa da? Now, your village Birc Heyder, with which villages are you relatives, in the Şêrawa region?
Ê wallah me ra mirovantî, em wek aşîr, em ê aşîrê me tinen. By God, our relationship, as a tribe, we don't have tribes.
Aşîrê me Dinna ye, dibêjin Dinna. Di mezinên me de digotin "Eşîrê Dinna em û gundê mezin". Our tribe is Dinna, they say Dinna. Among our elders they used to say "The Dinna tribe, us and the big village".
Welêt wanan dibêjin Welêt. Digotin welêt em mirovê hev bûn. Their homeland is called Welêt. They said we were relatives in the homeland.
Û di vê derê jî em û kibêşînya bûne mirovê hev. Em Faqirtiya bûne mirovê hev. Em birc qesliya bûn... And here too, we and Kibêşîn became relatives. We and Faqîran became relatives. We and Bircqesliyan became...
Gelek yanî, em eqrebe ne... di van gundan re. Many, meaning we are relatives... with these villages.
Birc qesî... Dirêşbûyî ... gişk kîmarê... Bircqesî... Dirêşbûyî ... all of Kîmar...
Bera de giş bûne mirovê hev. We've all been relatives since the past.
Niha hûn û gundê mezin hemî mirovê hevin? Now, you and Gundî Mezin are all relatives?
Ê ê mezinên me digotin... digotin "em û gundê mezin, em mirovê hev in". Yes yes, our elders used to say... they used to say "we and Gundî Mezin, we are relatives".
Di kevin de, yanî di kevin de, di mêj de. In the past, meaning in the past, a long time ago.
Gundê mezin jî du gund jê peyda bûn. Ew gundê birc qesê û Kilotê. Two villages emerged from Gundî Mezin as well. The village of Bircqesê and Kilotê.
Jê derketin e wane gundê xwe mezin bu fira bûn. They came out of there, their village grew and expanded.
Birca qasê berê jê derket û paşê Kolotê jê derket. First Bircqesê came out of it, and then Kilotê came out.
Niha ev piraniya aşîra we li ku derê dikeve? Now, where is the majority of your tribe located?
Aşîra me… em… li Sirûcê. Our tribe... we... in Sirûc.
Dibên Sirûc. Aşîrê Dinna li Sirûc ye. They say Sirûc. The Dinna tribe is in Sirûc.
Sirûcê, gundê we derê Sirûc dibêjin Aligol. Aligol em dibêjin we derê mirovê me. Sirûc, the village there in Sirûc is called Aligol. Aligol, we say we have relatives there.
Tab'en tirkiyê cîh e ne. Me ra xaber dan ew, gotin me çu… Of course, they are in Turkey. They sent us word, they said we went...
Yanî eşîrê xwe pirskir em di wê derê hatine. Eme j wê derê. I mean, he asked about his tribe, we came from there. We are from there.
Mixtar, berê, li gundê we li şêrawa tê zanîn, herêma şêrawa wek, herêma efrînê cih nedin. Mukhtar, in the past, in your village, it's known in Şêrawa, the Şêrawa region is not like the Afrin region where they have places.
Tê zanîn gundê we şêrawa nedikarin tê derbazbûna şêrawa, darê zeytûnan in. It is known that in your village Şêrawa you could not pass into Şêrawa, there are olive trees.
Bawer bikim hemyên wê zinarin e. Ê... berê, we debarê xwe di wira, bi çi dikirin? Wê niha çi dikin? I believe they are all rocky. How did you make a living there in the past? And what are you doing now?
Ê... welleh… debara xwa... By God... our livelihood...
Me we erdane da ajotin. We used to plow those lands.
Bi cût. Bi cûtê dewêr. Me cûtê dewêr dajotin. With pairs. With pairs of cattle. We plowed with pairs of cattle.
Musim cî rind jê dihat. Musim rind jê dihat. And a good harvest came from it. A good harvest came from it.
Yanî... Û paşê mî hebûn, pez hebûn, mî hebûn, çêl hebûn... I mean... And then there were sheep, there were flocks, there were sheep, there were cows...
Debara xwe ha ne. Dibara xwe bi çêla di bûn, bi pez di bû… Our livelihood was like this. Our livelihood was through cows, through flocks...
Bi mîyê di bû. Pê dikirin. Through sheep. They managed with it.
Berê we çi diçand? What did you use to plant?
Genim diçandin, nîsk diçandin din, ceh diçandin, e… culban… We planted wheat, planted lentils, planted barley, uh... vetch...
Sêlê… dibên sêlê qere… Culban, me diço… tişt gî diçandin. Vetches... they say black vetches... Vetch, we plant... planted everything.
Tişt gî diçandin. Sêvê di vê avê, me sêvê diçand her bi nedora... We planted everything. In this water, we planted apples, with a perimeter...
Yanî her binedora te ke behes bike, 10 kîlo dardiket. Meaning every perimeter if you calculate it, produced 10 kilos.
Û niha hûn çi diçînin? And now what do you plant?
Niha çandin kêm buye. Pir kêm buye. Lê ani me srife, beha bûye. Now planting has decreased. It has decreased a lot. Because the expenses have become high.
Û nawa fîne. Nawa fine te herê... cût biki, palo bi xestê bike, şixa bi kişne û… pê kêm buye. It's not worth it. If you go... to plow, pay harvesters, gather the crops and... it's become less.
Yene... weke berê.. pê rihtima de... ser vi cetî… You know... like before.. depending... on plowing...
Û pez? Hina heye? And sheep? Are there still any?
Ê pez heye. Ê… pez heye, pez rinda heye. There are sheep. Uh... there are sheep, a good number of sheep.
Pez heye. Heta nih pez heye. There are sheep. Even now there are sheep.
Tu dizanî… dibên şêrawa doman… dibên Şêrawa... mastî bi ramen. You know... they say Şêrawa mostly... they say Şêrawa... yogurt comes to mind.
Şir tê bîra me. Jiber go... divê ko.. di herî de hemî piraniyek... debara xwe.. tê diken. Milk comes to mind. Because they say... mostly... a large part... making their living.. comes from it.
Dewêr.. me.. me şîrê miya dixwar. Cattle... we.. we used to drink sheep's milk.
Me thelme çêdi kirin, We made thelme,
Me... We...
Theleme te zane? You know thelme?
Bê. Yes.
Telama çedikirin tişt, yanî gil… gile sar… xwarnî ne gî sa miya bu û rin bo. We made thelme, things, I mean all... all cool... our food was entirely from sheep and it was good.
Teştê gî metiş der wena tiş keri, Everything we did... we made it,
Hetan em de... tara bijen me ni zetel ceb me pir hindik bu Even if we... if you say we only had very little olive oil.
U ve dere Şêraw zet pir hendiq bu And here in Şêrawa, oil was very little.
Inha zetun bu ve hene? Are there olives now?
Hene din hin le... hin vede nuhan e. Yes, there are some... but they are from a little while ago.
Kê mi nev weki, em bi we gunde ifrin wo dera birn ehene I don't mean that, we don't have a lot like in Afrin villages.
Ê... Yeah...
Zeyt ji çê dibin... u dem asde xo de difraşe miya ec çila difraşın.. de xode divare di ke We make oil... and they sell their produce... they sell the milk and yogurt... and they make a living out of it.
Berî hûn diço ku dir difrotin Before where did you sell them?
Me bari diço baçer helem difroto. Me bacar helem difroto. We used to go to the Aleppo market to sell it. We sold it at the Aleppo market.
Ê poşin ber vegovin 10-15 sala afiten e Afrin... Then around 10-15 years ago we turned to Afrin...
E Afrin di... ferutin ma Afrin difutin. In Afrin... selling, we sold in Afrin.
Am heta naha Afrin difutin am heta nuha efrin defruşin... We sell in Afrin until now, we sell in Afrin until now...
Nah bera we afrin çi qas kîlometira? How many kilometers is your area from Afrin?
Lama der ma aferindin ke bes nev da ora ti Haleb be afirin Well, to Afrin from here it's exactly between Aleppo and Afrin.
Yani... ci Heleb hate hele bi se kilometre ji were xetê erefin de se km. I mean... from Aleppo to here is 30 kilometers, and from here to Afrin is 30 km.
Nah maxter ... bari qunde ve wen hami musliman bu bari de... de ci destebika wan isiti bo? Now Mukhtar... before your village, were they all Muslims before... or were they initially Yezidis?
Vella de dis bikay ... ezîdî bûn By God originally... they were Yezidis.
Çuyîn Sefarbilîk... eskerî vê derê... birin eskerî Sefarbilîk... They went to Seferberlik... military here... they took them to the military in Seferberlik...
Seferberlik? Seferberlik?
Sefarbilîk herbî alem el evile. Seferbilik ço ev dere. Bavey ma isilam bo o fa qundi tev islam ba Seferberlik, the First World War. He went there. Our father became a Muslim and so the whole village became Muslims.
O bare ce allem hendiq bu... And before, the world (population) was small...
Hendek won niferin u bovim bu o dibara xo bin çor pinç qapix ha bin There were few people, my father and there were two brothers, and there were four or five uncles.
Ki islem bon ami te severil qide boy sa sal ami islem buna bar se sali sed sala da amislem bona... They all became Muslims. In Seferberlik, it's been a hundred years since we became Muslims, it's been a hundred, a hundred years since we became Muslims...
Ê ki ve dima da ce? Co e şere? And who went there? Went to the war?
Bavey ma ci My father went.
Bavey te ci? Your father went?
bavey mi ço... apigi xwe co. Apix xo da na fetele My father went... his uncle went. His uncle never returned.
o fix nafteli o xa sifriliki cisi nadi sehed be evdere Never returned and in Seferberlik nobody knew, he was martyred there.
Cimey ma xe te camiy ma kiven camiye ma se camiye ma se sala nehesit hazard ne sed ponco yek dacamiy maqir ten. Jamiy ev gunde. Our mosque, our old mosque, our mosque, the year nineteen hundred, nineteen fifty one, our mosque was built. The mosque of this village.
Male te avabe sipasdera. May your house prosper, thank you.
Xwede tere be we siyata xa... xoda rebbel allem in wo base mil ine Xoda rebelemın kuveti qebede. May God protect you and give you good health... may God Lord of the Worlds protect our people, may God Lord of the Worlds give you strength.
Gundê Birc Heyderê, yek ji gundê navçeya Şêrawayê ye, ya kantona Efrînê ye. The village of Birc Heyder, is one of the villages of Şêrawa district, of the Afrin canton.
Xelkê vî gundî, ji eşîra Dunan e. Ev eşîr pir mezin e û piraniya wan li deşta sirûcê dijîn. The people of this village, are from the Dunan tribe. This tribe is very large and the majority of them live in the plain of Sirûc.
Li gor resîpiyên gund, birc heyder û hemû xelkê şêrawayê, di beriya şerê cîhanê yê yekêmin, bawermendên olên Êzidîtiyê bûn. According to the village elders, Birc Heyder and all the people of Şêrawa, before the first world war, were believers in the Yezidi religion.
Lê dewleta Osmanî, bi zor û zext li ser kurdên êzidî kir. Û leşkerên herêmê, xwe misliman nîşan didan, daku di cewhera xwe de ola xwe wenda nekin. But the Ottoman state, used force and pressure on the Yezidi Kurds. And the soldiers of the region, showed themselves as Muslims, so that in their essence they wouldn't lose their religion.
Û ev tişt bi şêwezekî cil, berg û gertev û gerdişên gund, di jiyanê de diyar dibe. And this is evident in the form of clothes, attire, and the customs and traditions of the village, in their lives.
Belê temaşevanên hêja, em di gundê Birc Hêder de ne. Em derbasî cem dayîkan bûn. Yes, esteemed viewers, we are in the village of Birc Hêder. We visited the mothers.
Dayîkan jî xas bi dilê xwe yê xweş tiştên wekî kevin û yên ser zeman anîn e meydanê. The mothers, with their kind hearts, have brought forth such old and traditional things.
Dayê merhaba ji we ra. Hello to you, mother.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Dayê em pirr kêfxweş bûn, em derbasî cem we bûn. Wê jî tiştên xwa yên kevin anî. Mother, we were very happy to have visited you. You also brought your old things.
We cilek wanî... wê got em cilên wanî çêdikin. You have a rug like this... you said we make rugs like this.
Ê dayê te û kê we ev cil çêkirin? So mother, who did you make these rugs with?
Ê welle qîçkên me hebûn, bûkên me hebûn, me xwer'a arî hev dikir... Well, we had our daughters, we had our daughters-in-law, we used to help each other...
Lê me arî hev nedikir, me çêdikirin... lê kes tenê nedikarî çêke. If we didn't help each other, we wouldn't have made them... but no one could make it alone.
Yanî dema we cilek çêdikir we çend kesa bi hev re çêdikir? Alîkarî. So when you made a rug, how many of you made it together? Helping out.
Lê em dibûn dido, sê... welle qîçikek wisa, pîreka wisa... bûka min arî min dikir. Well we would be two, three... well a girl like that, a woman like that... my daughter-in-law would help me.
Me xwer çêdikirin... We made them for ourselves...
Me karê me jî hebû, dewar cem me hebû. Na, me tenê weha çêdikir. We also had our work, we had cattle. No, we just made them like this.
Dewar cem me hebû, pez hebû... ê karê me pirr bû. We had cattle, we had sheep... so our work was a lot.
Karê berê pirr bû. The work in the past was a lot.
Ê dayê naha te got we cilan çêdikirin... So mother, now you said you made rugs...
Di gund de we çend kesa çêdikir? Jinan hemiya çêdikir lê we çend kesa? How many of you made them in the village? Did all women make them or just a few of you?
Ê welle jinên berê gişa çêdikir. Well, all the women in the past made them.
Yanî di gund de... bi jinên berê, ev zemanê berê gişa çêdikir. Bes vê wextê nizanin. I mean in the village... the women of the past, in the old times everyone made them. But nowadays they don't know.
Vê wextê nizanin, hûn ne elimandin hawisa? Nowadays they don't know, you didn't teach them, is that it?
Ê welle me ne elimandin... Welle hinek elimîn, we qîçkên me... hinek elimîn, hinek ne elimîn da... Well we didn't teach them... Well some learned, like our girls... some learned, some didn't...
Ê dayê we ji kê girt vê karê, kê nîşan we da we we cilana çêdikir? So mother, who did you get this work from, who showed you how to make these rugs?
Çima dêyka me zanibûn, pîrka me zanibûn... Because our mothers knew, our grandmothers knew...
Ê ê mezin zanibûn, em elimandin... Our elders knew, they taught us...
Dêkên me em elimandin... Our mothers taught us...
Ê dayê berê... te dît hemî tiştê we yê berê giş bi destan bû. So mother, in the past... you saw everything of yours in the past was by hand.
Erê. Yes.
Cêran an tiştek tunebû. There was no electricity or anything.
Na. We demê tunebû. No. There wasn't at that time.
We karê xwa giş bi destan çêdikir. You did all your work by hand.
Lê me bi destan çêdikir... Yes, we made them by hand...
Me bi destan kar giş dikirin me hanî... Ne tu tiştek, me tiştek wisa rehet tunebû... We did all the work by hand... There was nothing, we didn't have anything easy like that...
Ne îşê rehet tunebû. Karê berê çetin bû. There was no easy work. The work in the past was hard.
Me şixre dikişand... Em li paleyî diçûn, me paleyî bi destê xwe dikir. We carried loads... We went to the fields, we harvested by hand.
Me cencer diquta... Ev dewar. We threshed with a threshing sled... These cattle.
Me bêder bi xwe bar dikirin, bêder... We loaded the threshing floor ourselves, the threshing floor...
Lê, karê berê çetin bû. Lê naha vê karê rehet bûne. Yes, the work in the past was hard. But now the work has become easy.
Naha derrase radike, lê dixe bi xilas dibe diçe ewan... Now the harvester picks it up, threshes it and it's done, they go...
Ê dayê, karê we berê pirr zahmet bû, lê bes hinekî bifikirin, însan ji naha kêftir bû... So mother, your work in the past was very hard, but thinking about it, people were happier than now...
Ji naha kêftir bû. Nexweşî tunebû. Ne wekî vê gavê bû. They were happier than now. There was no illness. It wasn't like nowadays.
Welle însan rehet bû kar dikirin, we kêfxweş bûn. Well people were comfortable, they worked, they were happy.
Welle em reba hev dibûn... me paleyî dikir, yekî pişta xwe nediêşand... Well we would race each other... we harvested, no one's back hurt...
Kesek paş nedihişt, maşelleh kesek nedihat zanîn... No one left anything behind, mashallah nobody was even noticed...
Dêko vê gavê yek paleyî diqetîne... xelas, sietekî rûdinê diweste. Now someone harvests a bit... done, sits for an hour and gets tired.
Ew îş tuneye. Îşê berê qe tuneye. That work is gone. The work of the past is gone.
Vê seetekî wa dizanî, wa seetekî din xwarin bixwin, seetekî dîsa... Now they work for an hour, they eat food for another hour, then another hour...
Naha em vê gavê, ha wisa rehetî dikin. Now we, we rest like this nowadays.
Berê em sibê zû diçûn, heta derengiya rojê wekî em digîştin malê wextê roj diçû ava. In the past we went early in the morning, until late in the day when we reached home the sun was setting.
Ê dayê naha... ev cilan te çêkiriye? So mother, now... did you make these rugs?
Erê. Yes.
Ê te berî çiqas salî te çêkiriye? How many years ago did you make them?
Lê welle naha, yê amade buye, sîh sal. Yên çêkiriyê. Well now, the one that's ready, thirty years. The ones that were made.
Sîh sal e te çêkiriye? You made them thirty years ago?
Erê. Yes.
Min dido, berê min yeka daye bûkê, min yeka daye qîzê, min dido berê dane wa, min çêkirine... I made two, in the past I gave one to the daughter-in-law, I gave one to the daughter, I gave two to them, I made them...
Min yeka dî çêkir e, min firot welle. Min firot welle. I made another one, I sold it, really. I sold it, really.
Min yeka dî çêkir, min firot. Paşê de min çênekirî ye. I made another one, I sold it. After that, I haven't made any.
Di wê demê de we bi çiqasî firot? At that time, for how much did you sell it?
Welle wê demê de... bi çend bû? Bi çar sed waraq, pênc sed waraq e... Well at that time... how much was it? For four hundred liras, five hundred liras...
Berî bîst, sîh salan? Twenty, thirty years ago?
Lê, sîh... çil sal e. Yes, thir... forty years ago.
Çar sed waraq e, pênc sed waraq e. Welle... difirotin. It was four hundred liras, five hundred liras. Well... they sold them.
Min dido... yeka ha wisa nexş, ev nexş hebû. Me difirot, me pê erdek dikirî. I had two... one with patterns like this, it had these patterns. We sold it, we bought a piece of land with it.
We cilek difrot û we pê erd dikirî? You sold a rug and bought a piece of land with it?
Lê. Yes.
Erd bi çiqasî metroya wî bû? How much was a meter of land?
Ê dê welle nizanim. Min erdek pê kirî... welle ticar e... Well, I don't know. I bought a piece of land with it... well a merchant...
Ticar e, Muhemmedê Xezî... A merchant, Muhemmed of Xezî...
Ticar bû gundê me, cîranê malê hecî Muhemmed, me lez lê xist... min cilek firot, min pê we erdek kirî. He was a merchant in our village, the neighbor of Hajj Muhemmed's family, we rushed... I sold a rug, I bought a piece of land with it.
Naha di çend rojan de we çêdikir ev cilan? Now, in how many days did you make these rugs?
Welle her yeka çar rojan çêdikir. Em çar jin bûn. Well, each one of us made it in four days. We were four women.
Me her çar rojan çêdikir. Her jin çar rojan. We made it every four days. Each woman four days.
Her yeka wa her çar rojan dikir... ha naha. Each of them did it for four days... like this now.
Çar jinek, me yek din tune. Me her yeka çar rojan dikir. Four women, we didn't have anyone else. Each of us did it for four days.
Ê dayê spasdar in jê, em herin ji xwişkê ra jî bipirsin. So mother, thank you, let's go ask the sister as well.
Dayê merhaba ji te re jî. Hello to you too, mother.
Ehlen û sehlen. Welcome.
Te got te jî ev çêkiriye? You said you made this too?
Em. Yes.
Berî bi çend salan te çêkiriye? How many years ago did you make it?
Welle bûye zêdeyî bîst salan de... Well, it's been more than twenty years...
Ser sîh salî re dîtîye. It's been over thirty years.
Qîçkên min çûne zeytûnan, em şevê dikir. My girls went to the olives, we did it at night.
Heta qîçkên min çûne zeytûnan... çûna zeytûnan, em şevê dikir. When my girls used to go to the olives... going to the olives, we did it at night.
Min bi roj karê xwe dikir, min bi şevê jî cil dikir. I did my work during the day, and I made rugs at night.
Yane te bi şevê çêdikir? So you made it at night?
Şev, min bi şevê dikir, ceyran û kehrebek û tişt tunebû... Night, I did it at night, there was no electricity or anything...
Berî bîst salan ceyran û tişt tunebû, elbet? Twenty years ago there was no electricity or anything, right?
Na ceyran tunebû, welle... me çirayek dadikir... me li ber çirê kar dikir. No there wasn't electricity, well... we used to light a lantern... we worked under the lantern's light.
Û ne zahmet bû? Çawa we çêdikir... And wasn't it hard? How did you make it...
Zahmet bû, çawa ne zahmet bû? Cilên qotî wisa dikişand... It was hard, how could it not be hard? Pulling the rugs like that...
We dîsa çawa didît? How did you see it though?
Lê... we dît em vê gavê pîr bûne. Em nabînin, em naha nabînin... Lê me giş bi şevê çêdikirin... Well... you see we have gotten old now. We don't see, we don't see now... But we used to make them all at night...
Me qursî datanîn, me çira datanî ser... We put down stools, we put the lantern on top...
Wê... qeliyan diçikand, em li ber dima... me ji xwere kar dikir... me bi şevê çêdikir. We... lit up the oil lamp, we stayed in front of it... we worked for ourselves... we made them at night.
Me bi şevê kar dikirin. Cilên me, pirr cil çêdikirin... We worked at night. Our rugs, we made a lot of rugs...
Yane we demê we meraq jî zêde hebû. We made many rugs.
Yane we demê we meraq jî zêde hebû. So at that time, you also had a lot of interest.
Lê meraqa me zor bu... ez zû elimîm. Dêkên me yê mezin wisa çêdikir, qîçkêk... min got wez elimîme we dizanim... we min elimand... Yes our interest was great... I learned quickly. Our older mothers used to make them like this, as a girl... I said I learned and I know this... I learned...
Wisa ez elimîm... min pirr cil çêkirin. De min sê çar heb jê firotin... That's how I learned... I made many rugs. I sold three or four of them...
Em... Me paşê yek cemed bû me firot, min yeka xwer' danî wisa yek ji bo bûkê... cem rûniştin. Yes... Then we had one finished and we sold it, I put one aside for myself and one for the daughter-in-law... where they sit.
Yanî ji bo firotinê an we ji bo xwe jî çêdikirin we demê? So did you make them for sale or for yourselves at that time?
Me difirot, em wisa, tiştek dida me difirot daku pera derxînin, ji xwer jî çêdikî... hinek difirot... hinek ji xwer... me ji zarokan re jê ra dibirin... e rênceh, ji bûkê xwer çêdikirin. We sold them, like that, we gave something and sold them to make money, and we also made for ourselves... sold some... some for ourselves... we took them for the children... a dowry, we made them for our daughters-in-law.
Me we cilan dida bûkê... bi kêra qîzê tê û bi kêra bûkê tê. We gave those rugs to the daughter-in-law... it's useful for the daughter and useful for the daughter-in-law.
Naha we ji berê ev çêdikir e, jinê... hinek jin nizanin çêkin. Now you used to make these in the past, women... some women don't know how to make them.
Jinê vê gavê pûç in... Tu tişt nizanin... Em wekê berê nin. Women nowadays are useless... They don't know anything... We are from the past.
Yane jinê berê çêtir in? So the women of the past are better?
Ê jinê berê çêtir in... Dê ka dirûtin heta niha ser min dibeje... Naha... wa serî ra ez dikarim rîs pê bînim... ez dikarim dirûtim. Yes the women of the past are better... Sewing is still talked about me to this day... Now... I can spin yarn from the top... I can sew.
Ev ez ji we ra bibêjim, heşt zarok min mezin kirin e. Pênc qîz û sê kur, sê qîz... min, me ev, me ev qeder ew we bi şevê çêdikirin e. Let me tell you this, I raised eight children. Five daughters and three sons, three daughters... I, we, we made all this amount at night.
Naha te, evên te bi destê xwe çêkirin te jê wisa tiştana çêdikin, çêdikirin... Now you, these ones you made with your own hands, you made such things from them, you used to make...
Me digot bêrç tunebûn. Navnivîsk tunebûn... pirtik... betanî tunebûn, cîl e û wisa tiştê hazir tunebûn. Me ji xwera... wisa cil me çêdikirin. We didn't have woven mats. We didn't have mattresses... blankets... there were no thick blankets, rugs and ready- made things didn't exist. We used to make such rugs for ourselves.
Naha tu... e nexşeyê te, tu çêdikî çîye? Ev kîja şikl e? Now you... your patterns, what are you making? What shapes are these?
Ê nexş e navên wan... Ê... wa hen e... Well the names of the patterns... Well... there are these...
Hene, wa me pey hev datanî... tiştên mîna hene. Em nizanin. Yes, we put them one after another... there are things like this. We don't know.
Na me wisa... nexşên em we çêdikirin... e tişt mîna nav... lê nexş weka naha qet hazir tunebûn... Me bi xwe ji mejiyê xwe derdixistin... No we like... we made patterns... things like names... but ready-made patterns like now didn't exist... We used to invent them from our own minds...
Bê pirtûk û bê tiştek we... Without books and without anything you...
Em wî wextî bê... erê, em wê gavê rehet bûn... kes nake vê gavê... We at that time were without... yes, we were comfortable at that time... nobody does it nowadays...
Giş e... me xwest destê xwe bidin kar... gişê tiştên hazir derxistine... cilên hazir, hemû tişt... All of it... we wanted to put our hands to work... they brought out all ready-made things... ready-made rugs, everything...
Naha dayê, ev navên te çêkirine hene? Nava nexşên te çine? Now mother, do the ones you made have names? What are the names of your patterns?
Nav e? Me digot nêvka zerf. Names? We used to call it the center of the envelope.
Çi? What?
Nêvka zerf kê. The center of the envelope.
Me yê wî nexşî re digot lîtik e. E... lîtike. We called that pattern a lîtik (flower). Yeah... it's a lîtik.
Ev nav ji kî ve hatine? Navnîşana wan? Where did these names come from? Their titles?
Nizanim... ev dêka me yê mezin digotin me jî jê bihîst... I don't know... our older mothers used to say it and we heard it from them...
Me vê re digot e... henan e. Hey... ev... We called this one... henan. Hey... this...
Henan e, ser pêncan e. E... It's henan, it's on five. Yeah...
Me yê dinê ra... digot gurçik. Ev... We called the other one... kidney. This...
Me yê dinê ra digot çîçeka reqasoqe (the dancer flower). Ê... ev naha... We called the other one the dancer flower. Yeah... this now...
E me de got e me va dikir... nexş me ha weha dikir. We used to say that and we did this... we made patterns like this.
Me kar ha wisa dikir... We did work like this...
De we demê da me kar giş bi destan dikir. Me karê dirûtinê dikir. Me karê nava gund, me şixre dikişandin... me cencer diquta, me paleyî dikir ta nivro... em bixwe diçûn kar dikir... me bêder bixwe paqij dikir. At that time, we did all the work by hand. We did sewing work. We did the work in the village, we carried loads... we threshed, we harvested until noon... we went and worked ourselves... we cleaned the threshing floor ourselves.
Naha we we demê çi dikir di gunda, karê we? Now what did you do in the village at that time, your work?
Em qet di malê da ne... na... di çûn zeytûnan, we na em bi cîlî ne... pîrê me... karên me yê pirr giran bûn. Ê... We were never at home... no... going to the olives, we were not weaving... our elders... our work was very heavy. Yeah...
Karên gund jî we demê we ne zeytûn tenê bûn... karên devrê hemî bûn. Tûtinê de. Darê fistiqan û kar... ez zeytûnan de weha... The work of the village wasn't just olives... it was all the outside work. Tobacco too. Pistachio trees and work... I was in the olives like this...
Em dixwazin tu stranekê jî berê we... e dema we çêdikir hun stran çi digotin? We also want you to sing a song from the past... what songs did you sing when you were making them?
Ê min sê çar caran dizanîbûm... ez nizanim naha... Yeah I used to know three or four... I don't know now...
Çi be jî, bêje... Whatever it is, sing...
Lê, ez bêjim... Ji Helebê hat warq e... ji Helebê hat waraq e, zava bûkê me da rî heq e... zava bûkê me da helq e... Yes, let me sing... A paper came from Aleppo... a paper came from Aleppo, the groom gave our bride her rights... the groom gave our bride rings...
Zêdetir min ji bîr kiriye, ez bîr dikim qe nizanim... I have forgotten the rest, I forget, I don't know at all...
Spas, spas. Thank you, thank you.
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Belê temaşevanên hêja, em niha jî di gundê Birc Heyder de cih digirin. Yes, dear viewers, we are now in the village of Burj Haydar.
Em derbasî cihên dîrokî bûn. We have moved on to historical sites.
Ev ji Mamoste Ziyad va. And we are here with teacher Ziyad.
Merheba ji te re. Hello to you.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Mamoste, ev cihên dîrokî ji kengî ve hatin avakirin? Teacher, since when were these historical sites built?
Welle ev cîhana wek rûyê, yanî wextê Roman da. Ev asarên me asarên Romanî ne. Well, these places look like it, meaning from the time of the Romans. These ruins of ours are Roman ruins.
Û asarên hinek Yûnanî ne. And some of the ruins are Greek.
Dêreşemsekî li vir hebû, derket, emrê xwe yanî, xerîbekî derxist. There was a Sun Temple here. It was discovered, its age, meaning, a foreigner discovered it.
Got emrê xwe 1700 sal e. He said it's 1700 years old.
Û hinek dêr, hinek ceme', pênc dêr li gund in. And there are some churches, some gathered, five churches are in the village.
Û hinek şikeft hene, wek 20 şikeft ha ji vir in. And there are some caves, like 20 caves are from here.
Di şikefta de ma'serî zeytûnê hene, yanî. Inside the caves, there are olive presses.
Li kû derî ne ev şikeftane? Where are these caves located?
Nav gund in. Ma'serî zeytûnê tê da hene, yanî. They are in the village. There are olive presses inside them.
Û ciyê çiya jî, ma'serî tirî tê de hene. And in the mountain places too, there are grape presses inside.
Ew li kû derî ne? Where are those located?
Di nav çiyê da ne. They are inside the mountain.
Kîjan çiyayî da ne? Which mountain are they in?
Nav çiyê me de bela kirî ne, yanî. They are spread out in our mountain.
Mamoste, niha cîhên dîrokî te dît, dibêjin Şêrewa hemî cîhên dîrokî ne. Teacher, now there are historical places, they say Sherawa is entirely historical places.
Dîroka Kurda jî tê de heye. Ya Romaniya jî tê de heye. Ya Yûnaniya jî tê de heye. The history of the Kurds is also there. That of the Romans is there too. That of the Greeks is there too.
Niha ya Kurda, bav û kalên we, tim li gund in? Now the Kurds, your ancestors, have they always been in the village?
Em, me berê de evana cîhê me ye. We, since before, this is our place.
Evana cîhê me ye. Paşî Osmanî lê hatin. Paşî Roman yanî... Osmanî hat, û Roman hat. This is our place. Then the Ottomans came to it. Then the Romans, meaning... Ottomans came, and Romans came.
Yanî di her demkî de hinek hatin e. Evane cîhê me Kurda ne, yanî. Meaning, in every period, someone came. These are the places of us Kurds.
Te got dêr jî gund da hene? Did you say there are also churches in the village?
Pênc dêr di gundê me da hene. There are five churches in our village.
Li kû derî ne ev cih? Where are these places?
Dêrek, ew a li vir e. A church, that one is here.
Yek li xerbiyê gund e. Û yek li şerqiyê gund e. One is in the west of the village. And one is in the east of the village.
Li her derê hene. They are everywhere.
Û bircek dirêj, di gundê me da dirêjbûna xwe diçe 21 metreyan, 22 metreyan. And a tall tower, in our village, its height goes to 21 meters, 22 meters.
Van her gundekî de ev bircane hene. Berê yanî em bêjin, berî weha... In every village, there are these towers. Before, meaning, let's say, before that...
Işaret didane hevde. Elamet didane hevde. They used to signal each other. Give signs to each other.
Lê ji xirabkî... ji xirabkî diçûn xirabkî dîtir, weke xuyakirin, yanî. But from one ruin... from one ruin they went to another ruin, like making it visible, meaning.
Yanî ev cihên dîrokî her gundekî, em dibêjin Birc Qas e, Birc Heyder, Birc Ebdella... ev gundana hemî... Meaning these historical places in every village, we say Burj Qas, Burj Haydar, Burj Abdallah... all these villages...
Her gundekî de bircek hebû? Was there a tower in every village?
Van her gundekî de bircek weha dirêj hebû. In every village, there was a tall tower like this.
Û tiştên ku xirabe pa hev dîtin, nîşana hev didan, wek... And the ruins that saw each other, they gave each other signs, like...
birc, birça murakebeyê ye, yanî. a tower, an observation tower, meaning.
Ê navê gundê we jî ji vê bircê hatiye? Did the name of your village also come from this tower?
Navê gundê me... bircek a cem me li vê derê ye. The name of our village... we have a tower over here.
Birc... yanî, birc... Birc Heyder yanî... Tower... meaning, tower... Burj Haydar meaning...
Ji wê bircê hatiye. It came from that tower.
Gundê we de bircek tene heye, yan pêrtir hene? Is there only one tower in your village, or are there more?
Na, birc pir in. Wek 20 birca hene, yanî. No, there are many towers. Like 20 towers, meaning.
Hemî di gundan e? Are they all in the villages?
Gişk li gund e, yanî. They are all in the village.
Û tarîxa gundê me, tarîxek kevn e, yanî. And our village's history is an old history.
Dîrokek kevn e, diçe bi hezar salan. It's an old history, going back thousands of years.
Na ez te re dibêjim, Dêreşemsekî li vir derketibû. Yekî got emrê xwe 1700 sal e. No I am telling you, a Sun Temple was discovered here. Someone said its age is 1700 years.
Û dêr hene, û bîrê avê yanî, hene. And there are churches, and water wells, meaning, there are.
Cem me rîkek heye li wê derê. Li qulbetî gund e. We have a water reservoir over there. At the end of the village.
Rîk... berê gundiyan diçûn av jê dikişandin (dianîn). A reservoir... before the villagers used to go and draw water from it.
Bîr e? Is it a well?
Bîr e. Bes bîrên avzê ye, yanî. It is a well. But it's a well from a spring.
Gundî yanî, ji Basûfanê, Birc Heyderê, weha diçûn av jê dikişandin, yanî. Villagers, from Basufan, Burj Haydar, they would go and draw water from it.
Yanî ev rîke, we herdu gunda jî jê dikişand. So this reservoir, both your villages drew from it.
Me herdu gunda jê dikişand yanî. Both our villages drew from it.
Ew bîre li kû derî dikeve? Where is this well located?
Qulbetî gund e. Wek kîlometrekî ji gund dûr e. Kîlometrekî teqrîben. At the end of the village. It's about a kilometer away from the village. Roughly a kilometer.
Ev berî bi çend salan ew, te behs dikir? How many years ago was it, as you were mentioning?
Berî vana, wekî bi 25 sala yanî, av jê diwurtanîn (dianîn) yanî. Before this, about 25 years ago, they used to fetch water from it.
Piştî wê, naha bîrên kolane? After that, have wells been dug now?
Naha me bîr kolane nav gund da. Her malek yek kolaye. Yanî teqrîben her yek hewşek xwe da kolaye yanî. Now we dug wells in the village. Every house dug one. That is, almost everyone dug one in their yard.
Bîr hewşa xwe de kolane yanî. They dug a well in their yard.
Naha ev bîrên avê jî neman? Now these water wells are no longer there?
Na ev bîr sekinîne, naha. No, these wells have stopped, now.
Bes yanî, sekinîne, vala ne (zuwa ne), yanî. But, they've stopped, they are empty (dry).
Pez jê av didan, dewar jê av didan, ga jê av didan... They used to water the sheep from it, water the cattle from it, water the oxen from it...
Mamoste mal ava, spas ji te ra. Bless you teacher, thank you.
Spas ji we re jî, bi xêr hatin. Thank you too, welcome.
Dema mirov carekê li vî gundî dibîne, yekser birc û kelayên bilind, kevnarşopiya balê dikişîne ser xwe. When a person looks at this village for once, immediately the tall towers and castles, the ancient heritage draws attention to itself.
Hemî cihên dîrokî, bermahiyên şaristaniya Hûrî, Mîtanî, û Romayî tên ber çavê wî. All the historical sites, the remains of the Hurrian, Mitanni, and Roman civilizations appear before their eyes.
Di her buhostek erdê de, şopên binasaziyên endazyariyê têne dîtin. In every inch of the land, traces of architectural engineering are seen.
Pir kenîse û gorişkgeh jî lê hene, ku di dema borî de, ji bo tirî û zeytûnan hatine bikar anîn. There are also many churches and sanctuaries, which in the past were used for grapes and olives.
Di gel kevnarşopên Birc Heyder, Baradê, Kîmar, Basûfan, Xirabê Şemsê de, Along with the ancient relics of Burj Haydar, Barade, Kimar, Basufan, and Xirab Shams,
nîşanên xelqê û tîrêjên rojê li ser dergehên kelehan têne dîtin, ku tê wateya Xwedayê Şeşşems, yanî Ola Êzîdayetiyê. the signs of creation and sun rays are seen on the gates of the castles, which means the Sun God of Shashams, namely the Yezidi Religion.
Quwet be ji we ra, merhaba ji we ra. Strength to you, hello to you.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Seta we xweş. Have a good time.
A we jî xweş. You too.
Hûn keka çêdikin? Are you making cakes?
Erê welle em keka çêdikin. Yes, we are making cakes.
Em hew nas bikin, destpêkê navê we bi xêr? Let's get to know you, first of all, what is your name?
Navê min, Xezal e. My name is Xezal.
Ser çava. Nice to meet you.
Navê te bi xêr dayê? What is your name, mother?
Navê min Hebala (Hebîbe) ye emê min. My name is Hebala (Hebîbe), my child.
Ser çava. Nice to meet you.
Dayê niha we tenûr li ba we hene? Mother, do you currently have tandoors here?
Erê. Yes.
Hûn nan jê lêdixin? Do you bake bread in it?
Lê, nan jî em lêdixin, erê. Yes, we bake bread in it too, yes.
Û wekî kek nan jê lêdixe? And do you also bake cakes from it?
Em jê lêdixin, erê. We bake in it, yes.
Na keka nîn e, nan jî lê dixe? Not cakes, do you bake bread too?
Na ji wan jî lê dixim. No, I bake those too.
Hûn hemî nan ji vir lêdixin, yan hûn dikirin jî? Do you bake all your bread here, or do you buy it too?
Em dikirin jî, em lêdixin jî. We buy it too, and we bake it too.
Em ardê xwe lêdikin, û dikin legenê û em derme (hevîr) dikin. We prepare our flour, and put it in a basin, and we make dough.
Em avê germ dikin û diximirî, saetkî. We heat water and let it ferment, for an hour.
Paşî em tînin, tînin ser text, dikine kîk (kek), bi tenûrê ve didin. Then we bring it, bring it to the board, make it into cakes, and stick them to the tandoor.
Ê dayê, tenûr em niha, em li Efrînê derketin, em hatin me li Şêrewa dît. Ji ber çi da tenûr li ba we hene? So mother, the tandoor, now we, we left Afrin, we came and saw it in Sherawa. Why do you have tandoors here?
Lê, ji berê de cem me eva tiştane hene. Yes, from before we have these things.
Te zanî... li Efrînê me li derên ketin (lê geriyan), lê tunne, bes li navçeya Şêrewa heye. Do you know... in Afrin, we went to places, there aren't any, but it exists in the Sherawa district.
Erê, li Cizîrê... bajerê me ya Cizîrê, hemî digirin hene. Yes, in Cizire... our region of Cizire, they all have them.
Va vir jî Şêrewa hemî gundî de hene tenûr. And here too, all the villages in Sherawa have tandoors.
Çêdikin vira, weha keka dikin... Tenûre di hemî de henin. They make it here, they make cakes like this... Tandoors are in all of them.
Ê dayê hûn nan nakirin, hûn hemî ji vir çêdikin? So mother, do you not buy bread, do you make it all here?
Ê welle, em gava dikirin jî... gava çê dikin em pir keka dikin yanî. Well, when we buy it too... when we make them we make a lot of cakes.
Keka çêdikin... û heger nan nebe em dikirin jî. We make cakes... and if there is no bread we buy it too.
Ê dayê, dema cejna hûn tenê keka lêdixin, yan hûn tiştê dîn jî lêdixin? So mother, during the holidays, do you only bake cakes, or do you bake other things too?
Na welle em dudu dikin, em keka dikin, em a jê we nan lêdixin. No, we make both, we make cakes and we also bake bread.
Yan hûn tenê keka çêdikin? Or do you only make cakes?
Na, em nan jî dikin. Hinek nanê sêlê dikin. No, we make bread too. We make some sajj bread.
Ê dayê, hûn timî keka çêdikin? So mother, do you always make cakes?
Na, her wextî dilê me xwest em dikin. No, whenever we feel like it, we make it.
Yanî her çend roja hûn çêdikin? So every how many days do you make them?
Her du rojan, sê rojan, em dikin. Every two days, three days, we make them.
Di cejna de, hûn tiştekî din çêdikin, da dema eyda yê? During the holidays, do you make something else, like when it's Eid?
Em kiftan çêdikin. Û em sarma çêdikin, û em dolma çêdikin. We make kibbeh. And we make sarma (stuffed leaves), and we make dolma (stuffed veggies).
Di cejna de? During the holidays?
Te zanî piraniya wan, em dibêjin herêma Efrînê, te dît ku biçî Cizîrê... kuleyçe çêdikin. Yes.
Te zanî piraniya wan, em dibêjin herêma Efrînê, te dît ku biçî Cizîrê... kuleyçe çêdikin. You know most of them, we say the Afrin region, you see when you go to Cizire... they make kulecha (cookies).
Ê welle ji ber kereba nehatiye ye... Me berê çê dikir. Well, because electricity hasn't come... We used to make them before.
Yanî berê kuleyçe çêdikirin? So they used to make kulecha before?
Lē, me kuleyçe çê dikirin, me me'mûl dikirin, me keka zerik dikirin... Ev dibû eyd. Yes, we used to make kulecha, we used to make ma'amoul, we used to make yellow cakes... This was for Eid.
Ê niha kerebe tunne, em nikanin çêkin. But now there is no electricity, we can't make them.
We hazir dikiriya? Did you buy them ready-made?
Em hazir tînin, Efrînê dikirin. Kumban (kuleyçe) dikirin, xerîbe em dikirin, biskewîtan, çoqelatan em dikirin... We bring them ready-made, buy them from Afrin. We buy kumba, we buy ghorayeba (cookies), we buy biscuits, chocolates...
Û da bo eyda. And that was for Eid.
Mal ava dayê, spas ji we ra. Bless you mother, thank you.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Jiber asêbûna çiyayî û bêtir gundiyan... girîngiyê didin çandiniya genim, ceh û zeytûnan. Due to the ruggedness of the mountains, most villagers give importance to the cultivation of wheat, barley and olives.
Gelê Efrînê, pir ji şîr, mast, rûn, nivişkê Şêrewa sûd werdigrin. The people of Afrin greatly benefit from the milk, yogurt, butter, and clarified butter of Sherawa.
Wihaye ku ev berhem saxlem maye. That is how this product has remained healthy.
Merheba ji te re. Hello to you.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Tu ku de diçî? Where are you going?
Welle em diçine çêla, go em bidoşin. Well, we are going to the cows, so we can milk them.
Çêlên we li ku derê ne? Where are your cows?
Vê derê xwar de ne. They are down here.
Kerem ke derbas be, em bi te re bimeşin. Please go ahead, let us walk with you.
Kerem kin. Please.
Çend çêlên we hene? How many cows do you have?
Du ne. There are two.
Çend sal in hûn çêla xwedî dikin? How many years have you been keeping cows?
Welle, digihêje ji bîst û pênc salan ve, bîst salan ve... em xwedî dikin. Well, it reaches back twenty-five years, twenty years... we have been keeping them.
Ev pez jî yê we ye? Are these sheep yours too?
Erê yê me ye. Yes, they are ours.
Çiqasî dewarên we hene? How much cattle do you have?
Yanî heftê, heştê dewar hene. Meaning, there are seventy, eighty cattle.
Ê kî şivan e? Kî dighê (darî) wî pez e? And who is the shepherd? Who takes care of these sheep?
Ê de welle carê lawikê min dibe re, û carê peyayê min dibe re. Well, sometimes my son takes them, and sometimes my husband takes them.
Li ku derê diçêrînin? Ciyê çêrandinê. Where do they graze them? The grazing area.
Ê çol e, ew ha va dirin xwarê... çolê de diçêrînin. Well, it is the wilderness, they go down there... they graze in the wilderness.
Ka kerem bike, çêlekên we li kû derê ne? Please, where are your cows?
Welle li vir in. They are right here.
Tu bi tenê diçî didoşî? Do you go milk them by yourself?
Welle canê, ez didoşim, cana qîzika min a alîkariya min dike. Well dear, I milk them, and my daughter helps me.
Naha tu çendekan bi tenê didoşî? How many do you milk alone now?
Lê? Hmm?
Tu çendekan bi tenê didoşî? How many do you milk alone?
Lê? Ez tenê didoşim. Yes? I milk them alone.
Çêlekên we kû derê ne? Çêlekên we li kû derê diçêrin vê gavê? Where are your cows? Where do your cows graze right now?
Ê, vê gavê, em girê didin, kayê didinê. Biharê em berdidin, diçêrin. Well, right now, we tie them up, we give them straw. In the spring we let them out to graze.
Naha çêran tune ye? There is no grazing now?
Na, vêga çêran tune ye. No, there is no grazing right now.
Te got du çêlekên we hene, ne? You said you have two cows, right?
E. Yes.
Ka naha, tu didoşî? Let's see, are you milking now?
E. Yes.
Ka em derbas bin.. tu çi jî dibêjî? Shall we go inside, or did you want to say something else?
Derbas bin. Let's go in.
Destê te sax bin. God bless your hands.
Ê te jî sax bin. God bless yours too.
Naha tu doşiyê dikî vir? Are you milking here now?
Ê, zehmetiya xwe heye wextê didoşî? Yes.
Ê, zehmetiya xwe heye wextê didoşî? Is it difficult when you milk?
Ê welle gava mirov didoşe, çetin e zehmetiya xwe heye. Well, when someone is milking, it's difficult, it has its hardships.
Ez dikarim bidoşim, yan ez nikarim? Could I milk them, or no?
Ê de welle nizanî.. erê. Well, you wouldn't know how... yes.
Naha te destpêkê çi kir? Now what did you do at first?
Naha te çi kir? Huh?
Naha te çi kir? What did you do now?
Ez ê rabim ez golikê berdimê, anî bimiçim.. I will get up and let the calf to it, then I will milk.
Naha te ji bo wê golik berda ye? Now you released the calf for it?
Ê şîrê wê çiqasî derdikeve? Yes.
Ê şîrê wê çiqasî derdikeve? How much milk does she produce?
Ê şîr, min da.. vê saetê lê em tije derdixin. Milk, I gave... right now we get a full pot.
Naha tijî nebûye? Hasn't it filled up now?
Ha naha.. temam.. sibê da dotiye û em niha jî didoşin, êvaran jî em didoşin. Yes now.. completely.. we milked in the morning and we milk now, and we milk in the evening too.
Tê çend rojan.. rojê çend caran didoşî? How many days.. how many times a day do you milk?
Rojê du caran. Twice a day.
Sibê û êvarî? Morning and evening?
Sibê û êvarî. Morning and evening.
Ê ka kerem ke. Go ahead.
Naha çêlek jî kêfxweş bûye? So the cow is happy too now?
Lê, dê û kurik.. dê û kurika xwe ye. Yes, it's mother and son.. mother and her child.
Kurika wê ye? It's her child?
E, dê û kurika wê ye, lê kêfxweş dibe. Yes, it's mother and her child, of course she gets happy.
Naha ev çend meh in.. golik? Now how many months old are they.. the calves?
Du meh in evin. They are two months old.
Du meh in evin. Heta çend mehî şîr dixwe? Two months old. Up to how many months does it suckle?
Sê meh in em.. dimijînin heta sê mehan.. e paşê em digirin kayê û elefan didinê. Three months we... let them suckle, up to three months... yes, then we stop and give them straw and fodder.
Elef didinê. You give it fodder.
E. Yes.
Cefaya wê heye dayê? Does it have hardships, mother?
Ya'nî, cefayekî... Well, hardship...
Di xwedîkirina çêlekan da? In raising cows?
Lê çetin e.. kayê.. ya'nî xizmeta xwedîkirinê çetin e. Yes, it's difficult... the straw... I mean raising and serving them is difficult.
Çêlek nexweş dibin jî? Do cows get sick too?
Ê lê, hekîm tên ser. Nexweş dibin. Oh yes, the vet comes to them. They get sick.
Kû derê hekîm tên? From where do the vets come?
Welle, ya'nî.. hekîm tê. Di berê de ji Niblê dihatin u.. (ji) vir Efrînê tên û .. ango gundên din tên.. tên ser... Well, I mean.. the vet comes. They used to come from Nubl, and from here in Afrin they come, and.. I mean they come from other villages... they come to check them...
Naha tu bi tenê di mal da xizmetê dikî, an hinek din hene alîkariya te dikin? Now, do you serve them alone at home, or are there others who help you?
Ê welle ez tenê me canê, qîzika min alîkariya min dike.. Well I am alone dear, my daughter helps me too...
Ya'nî, av didin, û berdidin, û girê didin.. I mean, they give them water, and let them out, and tie them up..
Didoşim, arî min dikin.. I milk them, they help me..
Hûn pez jî xwedî dikin, û wan jî didoşin? Do you keep sheep as well, and do you milk them too?
E, pez.. em vê gavê nadoşin, ango di biharê da em didoşin. Yes, sheep.. we don't milk them right now, we milk them in the spring.
Di biharê da didoşin. You milk them in the spring.
Em di biharê da didoşin.. We milk them in the spring.
E mala te ava be, spas darim ji bo te.. May your house be prosperous, I am grateful to you.
O we ra be jî, ehlen wesehlen.. Yours too, welcome..
Gelek spas. Thank you very much.
O tu sax bî, gelek spas, ehlen wesehlen.. May you be healthy, thank you, welcome.
Şêniyên vî gundî, dispêrin ser xwedîkirina pez, û sewalên, ji bo peyda kirina pêdiviyên jiyane.. The residents of this village rely on raising sheep and animals to secure the necessities of life.
Wekî te ji hevjîna vê malê dît, xweza jina Şêrawî.. barê birêvebirina malê daye ser milê xwe, û hebûna xwe di gundewarê Şerawa de ispat kir. As you saw from the wife of this house, the nature of the Sherawa woman.. she has taken the burden of managing the home on her shoulders, and proved her existence in the Sherawa countryside.
Di gel xwedîkirina zarokan, diçe bêriyê, pale ye, û şixre.. û her weha, carcaran jî digerîne.. Along with raising the children, she goes to the plains, as a harvester, and does chores.. and sometimes she even takes the flock out to graze.
Lê piştî hatina alavên nû, jin hinekî bêhnvedan his kir, û barê xwe sivik kir.. But after the arrival of new tools, women felt a little relief, and their burden was lightened..
Li başûrê gundê Birc Heyder, aveziyek heye, û şivanên her sê gundên hawîrdorê, pezê xwe jê av didin.. In the south of Birc Heyder village, there is a waterhole, and the shepherds of all three surrounding villages water their sheep from it.
Belê temaşevanên hêja, di gundê Birc Heyderê da jî.. Yes dear viewers, in the village of Birc Heyder too..
Gotin dawetek heye, me jî xwest em bi meraq bin em derbasî mala zêva bin.. They said there is a wedding, we wanted to be curious and enter the groom's house..
Em hatin ba zêva, û di hundur de nîştin, û mêvanên wî jî rûniştin e. We came to the groom, and sat inside, and his guests are sitting too.
Me got em bipirsin, berê şahiyên vî gundî çawa bûn, erf û edetên wan çawa bû.. niha çawa ye.. We decided to ask, how were the celebrations of this village before, what were their customs and traditions.. and how are they now..
Apê Reşîd merheba, çawa yî? Uncle Rashid, hello, how are you?
Merheba, merheba ehlen we sehlen.. Hello, hello, welcome.
Sax be, destpêkê, pîroz be şeva te, sibe.. sibe daweta we ye. May you be healthy, firstly, congratulations on your night, tomorrow... tomorrow is your wedding.
Ehlen we sehlen.. ez aqbêla ê qîçkê we û her însanekî... qîçkê xwe han e, bebincin. Welcome.. may this joy be upon your young ones and everyone... whoever has young ones, may they marry.
Spas dar im ji te.. Apê Reşîd ka hinekî qala şahiyan bike, berê dawetên we çawa bûn? I am grateful to you.. Uncle Rashid, can you talk a bit about the celebrations, how were your weddings before?
Welle.. naha.. berê.. Well.. now.. before..
Di gundê me da, yanî me dibîst, digotin dawet heftekî dibin. In our village, I mean we used to hear, they said weddings used to be a week long.
Piştî demeka derbas bû, ez gihaştim, du rojan dibûn.. After some time passed, I remember, they became two days long..
Naha berê me.. teb'en xelat jî dikirin. Ji ehbabên xwe ra, ji meriyên xwe ra, ji hemî.. yanî însanê... Now, before, we... of course we also gave invitations. To our loved ones, our relatives, to all.. I mean people...
Wekî te got.. naskirina me ra, ne her însanek ku te hemî vê ra gotî merheba, tu xelata wî jî her bikî.. na. Like you said.. people we know, not every person you said hello to, you go give them an invitation... no.
Me dikirin, niha roja ewil qirîv dihatin, nav gundiyan digeriyan.. We used to do it, now on the first day the best men (qirîvs) would come, they would go around the villagers..
Digeriyan. Her yekî tiştek didan, ev jî qirîvan vedigeriyan. Dihatin. Nanê xwe dixwarin. They went around. Everyone gave something, and the qirîvs would return. They came. They ate their food.
Ya'nî ez gihaştim du rojan dawet dibûn. I mean, I remember weddings being two days long.
Û naha.. di vî demî da.. ez kanim terîf bikim bi wextê berê da. Me şeva heneyê, ya'nî zave, bûk, hene dikirin... And now.. in this time.. I can describe it compared to the past. On the henna night, I mean the groom, the bride, they did henna...
Û roja din, dawet. Em dihatin, xwarin çêdikirin, qurbana xwe şerjê dikirin.. And the next day, the wedding. We came, cooked food, sacrificed our animals..
Xelkê dihatin azîma xwe dixwarin. Piştî nîvro, dawet dihat.. her tişt. Me bûk.. lê hesbî siwar dikirin.. People came and ate their feast. After noon, the wedding started.. everything. We used to put the bride.. on a horse..
Nav gundê digerandin ya'nî. Em tên millete gî radibin.. şahî. Bi def û zurne ya'nî.. alîkariya hev dikirin. They toured her around the village, I mean. We come, all the people stand up.. celebration. With drum and zurna, I mean.. they helped each other out.
Naha destpêkê.. berî şahiyê.. çend rojan berî şahiyê xelat belav dikirin? Now at the beginning.. before the celebration.. how many days before the celebration did they distribute the invitations?
Xelat belav dikirin, teb'en... xelat belav dikirin. Em bêjin nimûne.. berî dewetê bi sê rojan... bi heftekî.. ya'nî. They distributed invitations, of course... they distributed invitations. Let's say for example.. three days before the wedding... a week.. you know.
Xelatên xwe belav dikirin, we'dê daweta xwe diyar dikirin... digotin firan rojî dewet e. They distributed their invitations, they declared the time of their wedding... they would say, such-and-such day is the wedding.
Heya wî we'dî, hemî xwendiyê xwe de hatin.. Dihatin û xwendiyana.. Until that time, all the guests came. They came and the guests..
Em bêjin... meriyên xwe... ehbabê xwe... her yekî gundek. Let's say... our relatives... our loved ones... each one from a village.
Ê roja destpêkê dihatin, an roja duduya dihatin? Did they come on the first day, or the second day?
Welle, eger... heger gund hinekî dûr ba, du rojan dihatin. Well, if... if the village was a bit far, they would come for two days.
Yanî gundê me niha tê bîra me, em diçûn Kifr Zêytê, Kifr Zîta, çêçika.. dûr bû ji me. Em du rojan li dawetê diman. I mean, our village, as we recall now, we would go to Kafr Zita, Kafr Zita, and such.. it was far from us. We stayed for two days at the wedding.
Bes gundên nêzîk... But the nearby villages...
Ji qasî gundî me ra.. çend kîlometre? Em rojekê diçûn? About our village.. how many kilometers? Did we go for one day?
Gundan, yanî, dor me... dor tê me.. sê, çar kîlometre, em rojekê diçûn. For villages, I mean, around us... near us.. three, four kilometers, we would go for one day.
Roja dawiyê da? On the last day?
Roja dawiyê em diçûn. We used to go on the last day.
Û berî hene dikirin? Bûk? And did they do henna before? The bride?
Ê... teb'en... dihatin êvarî hene dikirin. Ya'nî, şeva duduya, zava hene dikirin, bûk jî hene dikirin... Yes... of course... they came in the evening and did henna. I mean, the second night, they did henna for the groom, and they also did henna for the bride...
Zava li mala xwe hene dikirin, û bûk li mala xwe? The groom had henna at his house, and the bride at her house?
Wallahî.. Zava li ortê meclîsa xwe hene dikirin... bes bûk, dimala xudaniyê bûkê da hene dikirin... mala xudiyê bûkê da... By God... The groom had henna applied in the middle of his gathering... but the bride, had henna applied at the bride's parents' house... at the bride's parents' house...
Berya şahiyê. Before the celebration.
Na na, vana.. demê şahiyê de... ya'nî dawet bû. No no, these... during the celebration time... I mean it was the wedding.
Zava te di nav ortê meclîsê da hene dikirin. Bes bûk... diçûn li mala xudiyê bûkê da hene dikirin. The groom had henna applied in the middle of the gathering. But the bride... they went and applied henna at the bride's parents' house.
Naha jî, çend roje şahî? And now, how many days is the celebration?
Wallahî! Naha cem me.. şahiyên me, vî wextî naha em lî cema, gundê me, û gundî dordora me.. By God! Now with us.. our celebrations, at this time now we are gathered, our village, and the villages around us..
E sibe saat em.. bê naha dawet pêk dikeve... ya'nî, heta evara roj ava.. Tomorrow at an hour we.. well now the wedding takes place... I mean, until the evening when the sun sets..
Rojek e.. ya'nî, meseleya me... rojek e... I mean, it's one day?
Rojek e.. ya'nî, meseleya me... rojek e... One day.. I mean, our matter is... one day...
Ê naha te xelat belav kirine? And now, have you distributed the invitations?
Me xelat belav kirine, hazir in înşellah. We have distributed the invitations, they are ready, God willing.
Me dihat, di dawyê xwe... dî vê gavê... em ê herin bûka xwe bînin... We used to go to our wedding... at this time... we will go bring our bride...
Hûn ê bûka ji kû derê bînin? Where are you bringing the bride from?
Welle... Bûka me ji Başemrê ye, qîzika apê min e... Well... our bride is from Başemrê, she is my uncle's daughter.
Ew gundî Başemrê çiqas ji vîra dûr e? How far is the village of Başemrê from here?
Welle heye! Şeş heft kîlometre.. heft kîlometre ji me dûr e... Teqrîben zêdetir... Ew jî.. hedûdê taxta da ye ya'nî.. dor çiyayê taxta da... Well, there is! Six or seven kilometers.. it's seven kilometers away from us... Approximately more... They are also.. near the borders of the rock I mean.. around the rocky mountain...
Apê Reşîd, naha mêvan ji gunda tên, dixwin, van tiştan.. we çawa dikirin? Uncle Reşîd, now the guests from the villages come, they eat, these things... how did you do them?
Berê... mêvan gava dihatin.. her malek me... naha bi çûna... Before... when guests came.. every house of ours... they would go...
Meriyên xwe ra, hevalên xwe ra.. her yekê... gote... falan gund, mêvanên te ye... To their relatives, their friends.. everyone... would say... such-and-such village, they are your guests...
Wîni... haziriyên xwe dikirin... tiştên xwe tanîn. De gava dihat, xelat... wî... wan dihatin... wî... xizmet dikir. You know... they would make preparations... bring their things. So when the time came, the invitation... they... they came... he... would serve them.
Bes naha... em bi ecêb da.. Ê... xwediyê.. ya'nî zava... Ê... xwarina xwe di cema xwe de çêdike.. û... millet êdî.. ya'nî zimanê xwe tîne... But now... we are doing it differently. The host.. I mean the groom... Well... he cooks his food in his own gathering.. and... the people then.. I mean they bring their word...
Ya'nî, mala zava bi tenê xwarinê çêdike? I mean, only the groom's house cooks the food?
Mala zava bi tenê xwarinê çêdike. Only the groom's house cooks the food.
Ê berê xweştir bû nê? Was it better before, right?
Erê berê xweştir bû... Ya'nî.. Yes, it was better before... I mean...
Naha hinekî zehmetî zêde dibe? Heke weke berê ba.. naha xwediyê zêve jî bi tenê ye, wî jî qurbana xwe çêkir, û her merivekî din jî qurbana xwe çêkir. Ya'nî.. berê pir xweş e, ji van tiştan ra.. Now it gets a bit more difficult? If it was like before.. now the groom's owner is alone, he also sacrificed his animal, and every other person also sacrificed their animal. I mean.. the past is very nice, for these things..
Ti çi dibêjî ji tê xwazî vegerî? Ez te xwazim vegerim wek edetên berê.. wek te gotin.. ya'nî baştir e! What are you saying, do you want to go back? I want to go back like the old traditions.. like you said.. I mean it's better!
Ê pîroz be inşallah.. naha deya zêva kû derê ye? Well, congratulations, God willing.. now where is the groom's mother?
Deya zêva naha haziriyên xwe li malê da... tiştê.. haziriyê li malê da û amê sibê herin bûka xwe bînin.. Û aqbêla li cem her yekî mirazek di dil da heye, qîzika xwe bizewicîne û.. hawa me îşê xwe xelas kiriye ya'nî.. The groom's mother is now making preparations at home... things.. preparations at home and tomorrow we will go bring our bride.. And congratulations to everyone who has a wish in their heart, to marry off their daughter and.. well we have finished our work, you know..
Zava kû derê ye? Where is the groom?
Zava welle.. naha çîçikek karê wî çû bibîne.. çûye Efrînê ji ber ku sibê daweta wî ye. The groom, well.. he went to do a little bit of work now.. he went to Afrin because his wedding is tomorrow.
Pîroz be inşallah.. naha em derbasî cem deya zêva jî bibin.. Congratulations, God willing.. now let's go in to the groom's mother too..
Ê ehlan we sehlen, ehlan we sehlen. Yeah, welcome, welcome.
Di dawetan de, her du malbatên bûk û zava, amadekariyên pîrozbahiya kur û... At weddings, both the families of the bride and groom made preparations for the celebration of their son and...
Çaxê wa dikin... wekî tavekî dibe... pirçê wê û bergên wê tenê qene bi çi çêdikin. When they do this... when it gets some sun... they just comb its hair and make its clothes.
Belê temaşevanên hêja, naha em derbasî hundirê zewacê bûn, daîka zava jî li vir e, em ê silavên xwe bidinê. Merheba jinap. Yes dear viewers, now we have entered the wedding, the mother of the groom is also here, we will greet her. Hello, aunt.
Ehlen we sehlen. Welcome.
Destpêkê pîroz be. First of all, congratulations.
Ji we re jî pîroz be, û saeta we xweş hûn hatin ser serî min, ser çavê min. Congratulations to you too, and have a good time, you are very welcome.
Sax be. Naha hûn çi dikin? Naha hazirtiya we çî ye ji berî şahiyê? Thank you. What are you doing now? What are your preparations before the wedding?
Ê welleh berî şahiyê em mala bûkê zêvê didin... tiştên wa didin hevdu... Well, before the wedding, we give the bride's family gold... they gather things...
Îro me çû tişt anîn... Bûkê me ra hatiye, hat em mala xwe bitewqînin çê kin, diza bikin. Today we went and bought things... Our bride has come with us, she came so we could prepare our house and organize it.
Kîjan bûk e? Which one is the bride?
Pîroz be înşallah. This one.
Pîroz be înşallah. Congratulations, God willing.
Sax be. Thank you.
Naha we bûk ji xwe re aniye û we tiştên bûkê jî anîne, ka ji me re bêje naha ev pirtîna...? Now you brought the bride to yourselves and you brought the bride's belongings too, tell us about these pieces of wool...?
Ev pirtîna, em hiriyê dawê tînin, em diqutînin... û em dişon, bi destê xwe em dikin pirtî. These pieces of wool, we bring the wool inside, we beat it... and we wash it, and make pieces of it by hand.
Ev doşek, ev orxan, ev balgeh. Betan e, cem xwe yanî em cîhêzê wê çêdikin. These mattresses, these blankets, these pillows. Blankets, I mean we make her dowry here.
Hûn çi çêdikin lê mala bûkê çi çêdike? You make this, but what does the bride's family make?
Em jî çêdikin wê jî çêdikin, mala zava jî çêdike, ya bûkê jî. We make it and they make it too, the groom's family makes it, and the bride's too.
Herdûk çêdikin? Do both of them make it?
Herdu. Both of them.
Vê cem we dişa didin, dema me lawekî xwe zewicandin em vê tişta hemî didinê? You sort this out here, when we marry off a son, do we give him all these things?
Em hemî tişt em didinê. Yes, we give him all the things.
Ê din kî ne tena? Who are the others here?
Ev qîzamin a, û ev bûkamin a mezin a... û ev dêka xwe ye. This is my daughter, and this is my older daughter-in-law... and this is her mother.
Yanî ez xesû, ha ev ha, eva berdilê wê ne. So I am the mother-in-law, and this one, this is her dear one.
Pîroz be înşallah, şahî jî sibedê ye. Congratulations, God willing, the wedding is tomorrow.
E şahî jî sibedê ye înşallah. Oqbala ji cem qîçikê we be, ji cem Ometê Mihemed gişkî be. Yes, the wedding is tomorrow, God willing. May the same happen for your children, and for all of Prophet Muhammad's Ummah.
Û oqbala derxistinê serokê me be, azadiya Kurdistanê be înşallah. And may it also happen for the release of our leader, and the freedom of Kurdistan, God willing.
Em dixwazin tu ka ti jî stranekî berê dema we xena dikirin... ka tu ji me re bêje? We want you to sing us a song from the past, from when you were doing the henna... can you sing it for us?
Lê ehlen û sehlen. Sure, welcome.
Xinê bête... eştêkê navê... pêkê lêkê... dest û lingê wê bû... The henna has arrived... they applied it... to her hands and feet...
Û oqbalê li komê kin... And hope the same for everyone...
Spas jinapê, pîroz be carek din. Thank you aunt, congratulations once again.
Saeta we xweş hûn hatin ser serê min, ser çavê min. Zewaca xortê we be înşallah... Have a good time, you are very welcome here. May it be the wedding of your youth, God willing...
Pîroz be carek din înşallah. Congratulations once again, God willing.
Spas, em naha emê derbasî şahiyê bin, emê dîmenên şahiyê jî nîşanî we bidin... Thank you, now we will head over to the wedding party, we will show you scenes from the wedding party too...
Înşallah... Înşallah, hûn hatin ehlen wa sehlen, ser serê min, ser çavê min... God willing... God willing, you are welcome, you are very welcome...
Belê temaşevanên hêja, li vir jî em bi xatirê xwe ji we dixwazin, em gihîştin dawiya bernameya xwe. Yes dear viewers, here we bid you farewell, we have reached the end of our program.
Îro em li gundê Birç Heyderê bûn. We jî bi me re temaşe kir, dîroka gundê Birç Heyderê. Today we were in the village of Birç Heyder. You also watched with us, the history of Birç Heyder village.
Heta heya bernameyek din emê dîsa bi we re bin, li benda me bin. Until another program, we will be with you again, wait for us.